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标题: 老外的SJM430试机炸机报告 翻译版 供参考 [打印本页]

作者: garfieldhummer    时间: 2009-2-18 15:27
标题: 老外的SJM430试机炸机报告 翻译版 供参考
这个报告原文地址在:
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=92649

我现在将这个报告翻译成中文给大家参考, 如果翻译的不好的地方,请见谅

大家好,

为了加速SJM这个新机论坛的发展, 我来谈谈我的看法.

正如大家所知, 我是SJM的狂热粉丝, 自动大约1年前开始玩SJM400.
所以我只好把我的老SJM500上的设备拆下来安装在430上,我的430安装了最好的电子设备,以发挥出它的性能.

3326 1210 Scorpion Motor + ESC Scorpion
S9650x3 + S9257
AR7000
and AC3X (yeah baby)  这是无副翼系统  也就是我之前说的430暴力视频2则里的.

当我收到飞机取出零件时,我对我自己说这个飞机包装的很好.
哇哦,他完成的比500要好.

他比500有许多升级的地方:
更加粗壮的尾桁
马达安装在上面
良好的舵机兼容性, 从mini舵机到标准舵机, 2个螺丝到4个螺丝安装的
出色的亲和性,无论是马达 主齿 小齿  一切.... 不需要拧一个地盘上的螺丝就可以移动这些设备, 对我这样的炸机王简直就是美梦.

而且一些闪闪发光的东西60g

它包括3部分,但是我把所有螺丝拆开重新上了遍
我把所有的东西都组装起来,一切都很顺利, 没有任何问题
我是很可观的人,但是不得不说一切很完美

但是安装舵机的时候有点小麻烦

主轴有2个安装位置,上下(柔和还是暴力3D,1厘米的差异)

在上安装位,十字盘连杆太短,而在下安装位,十字盘连杆太长,这太糟糕了,因为在老500上都好好的.
还好我备了些长的可以用.

下一个问题是,当我转动尾巴去检查(原文是"中国重量",我猜是SJM的尾桨配重设计)的效率时,发现尾鳍震动很厉害, 尾轴有点弯,然后产生了共振,所以我配种了下,修改了基部,来解决问题.

真是个严格的机器阿,一点错误也不放过.

当然,到我第一次在我的停车场悬停的时候,我仍然没有消除震动,具体的说,当旋转下滑的时候,飞机发生了很严重的"鸡舞"( 不知道是震动还是什么意思 )

所以我拆开了悬翼头(就2个螺丝4个球头而已), 把桨夹算上,一起做了平衡,

用了1/2英尺的绝缘带,然后的悬停就变得很稳定顺滑.

新的悬翼头夹设计很严格,就像大桨家夹插入了轴承一样,它不允许任何的不平衡,真是个竞赛机器阿.

好了,来让我们进行第一次飞行,安装副翼的哦 (+/-12° collective and +/-7°cyclic and 2600rpm (100% 13T pinion))

漂亮, 虽然用的栏电池(60循环,2200 21C), 但在更大的副翼的帮助下 非常精准 并且 稳定, 但是飞行速度降低, 敏捷度也下降. 现在它飞得很香 Rex500了.
之前的SJM500更快,更灵敏,但是没REX精准.
但是3分钟后, 哇哇哇, 
在我降落前,所有的东西在空中散开,像石头一样从15-20米的地方掉下来.一片桨叶和一个桨夹射飞了.

当我拿起来,一个桨轴定位螺丝(这个市衡州螺丝么?还是固定桨的 不理解)拧得不够紧,然后轴慢慢松开了,把最后2个丝给拉列了.

所以经所能把螺丝拧好,很重要,直接打些螺丝胶

所以,现在我们是朋友了,因为hiddy从5楼炸鸡后什么也没留下

主轴倾斜了20度,我从来没见过,一个副翼杆绞了,2个舵机齿损失,主齿损伤,一个球头坏了,顶棚掉了点漆. 我相信要是500炸了,会比这好一点.

看看副翼的形状,我想我已经做了个成功的测试,我做了个真正的炸机测试,对吧?

恩,谈下一话题,无副翼系统,
SJM已经延伸了大桨控制臂,比以前要容易许多。一个得向更中间划过,直接连接在来自十字盘的连杆上,用了2分钟

第一次飞行很棒,速度又回来了,旋转率也回来了。 但是惊喜是设置,当初的500安了V-bar后,我一直没办法解决高速前进时的点头,后来我把它卖了,买了个AC3X来解决这个问题,当时我把感度降低大盘30%(默认值是50%)

现在我可以把430的感度开到80%,一点点头都没有。
稳定性仍然是更出色,飞行的时候不会产生任何姿态的飘移,太棒了。

最重要的是在它的涡流中垂直下降,通常是滑到一边,现在垂直下降,不需要一点修正。

现在是我的第4次飞行,用的zippy 21C batteries电池http://www.rcmovie.de/video/eb8ebb94ebc82f0fac2f

我现在仍然有个问题,就是那个不够尺寸的皮带
我发现最大尾巴最大螺距在低得一边,所以我安装了更长的尾轴来达到比较疯狂的螺距。

但是由于这个大螺距, 满舵时皮带会打滑, 所以我买了更宽的皮带和更大的滑轮(20美金)
尾滑轮和前滑轮

[ 本帖最后由 garfieldhummer 于 2009-2-18 15:48 编辑 ]
作者: garfieldhummer    时间: 2009-2-18 15:28
标题: 回复 1楼 的帖子
Hi folks,

to celebrate this new SJM forum I post my review of the 430



As you may know I am a big SJM fan as I started heli flying with an sjm400pro a bit
more than one year ago.
So, I had to sell my good old SJM500 and move the electronics to the new SJM430

It is equipped with top electronics to guve the best out of it.

3326 1210 Scorpion Motor + ESC Scorpion
S9650x3 + S9257
AR7000
and AC3X (yeah baby)


So I recieved the box very well packed and when I pulled out the parts I said to myself:
wow they are even better finished then on the 500.








There are many improvements versus the 500:

A tougher flybar (3mm and nice paddels) which is super freely moving
A bigger tail assemby (4m axis 210mm diameter) with integrated chinese weights but may be not with enough pitch
- thrust bearings on the main rotor blades and on the tail blades



- a bigger tail boom
- motor on the top
- adjustable servo mounts covering mini to standard servos with 2 or 4 screws.
- Brilliant accessibility . belt, maingear, pinion, motor... everything can be
changed without removing a single screw of the chassis. A dream for a serial crasher like me.



and some bling bling that weights 60g (but youget used to it)

It comes it 3 main assemblies but, I removed, loctited and screwed back all head and tail screws (chassis screws were already secured on mine)
I mounted all together very easily with no issue.
Everything is perfect, so It will be hard to keep my objectivity!

But installing the servos showed some troubles. There are 2 possible main axis positions. A high and a low one
(gentle or more 3D, 1cm difference).
for the high position the servo-swashplate rods are too short and for the low position, the swashplate-mixer rods are too long ... too bad especially because on the 500 everything was right.
Well, I had some longer rods and mounted them.








Next trouble was some vibrations on the tail fin while I wanted to spin up the tail rotor to check the efficiency of the chinese weights.
The big tail boom twists and torsionally resonates with the tail rotor. I had to balance the tail blades with some tape on a trial and error basis to get rid of these vibrations.
everything is so rigid on this heli that it forgives nothing.



But I wasn't finished with vibrations as during the first hovering in my parking lot, on concrete, The heli be× to chicken dance violently during spool down.
So I unmonted the main shaft (4 screws and 4 ball inks that's all it takes!) and I balanced the whole head with the blades mounted on.




1 1/2 inch of electrical tape was needed and the subsequent hovering was very nice and smooth.
The new head is very rigid as the new blades holders are equipped with thrust bearing and thus it is not forgiving any unbalance like a damped head would.. A true racing machine.

So let's do the first real flight with the flybar. (+/-12° collective and +/-7°cyclic and 2600rpm (100% 13T pinion))

Nice!!!, plenty of power despite my squeezed batteries (60 cycles 2200 21C zippys), very accurate and stable with the bigger flybar but also a lower flight speed and less nimble. it flies much more like a rex500 now.
The previous sjm500 was faster and more agile but less precise than the rex.
But after 3 minutes, it started to make a wowowowowow
and before I even could land, the whole thing exploded in midair and
fall like a stone from 15-20m height!!! A rotor blade with the whole blade holder flew away!!!



As I picked it up and I could see that the feathering shaft securing screw was not tight enough (although loctited). The feathering shaft unscrewed then gradually (wowowowowow) and teared of the 2 last threads.

So be very careful and tight these screws much more then you would. And put also some loctite directly on the feathering screw! this is very important!



Well from there, we became friends again because the kiddy had
almost nothing despite his fall from 5th floor.

main shaft bent by 20 degrees (I never saw that), a flybar in spiral, 2 servo gears , the main gear ruined, a broken ball link, and a little painting gone on the canopy ... The 500 would have suffered more!

Considering the shape of my flybar, I considered the flybar test successfully concluded (I made a real crash test uh?)



and moved to the dark side: Flybarless. As SJM has extended the blade control arm is even easier then before. One has just to slide the arm
more toward the center and connect it directly to the rod that
comes from the swashplate. that's it 2min!







And the first flight was great. The speed is back  and rotate rates too. But the surprise were the settings! With the 500 and the vbar, I never managed to get rid of pumping in fast forward flight, so much that I sold it to take an AC3X with which I managed to get rid of this pumping only by lowering the I gain to 30% (default is 50%)
With the 430 I am able to increase the I gain to a full 80% without pumping!
So the stabilization is also much more efficient and there is never any need to correct any drifting flight attitude! Awesome!

The biggest clou is the vertical descent in it's vortex! usually it always slides to the side. Here it is moving down STRAIGHT without any input on the sticks!

Here the 4th flight video with my senile zippy 21C batteries:

http://www.rcmovie.de/video/eb8ebb94ebc82f0fac2f


I still have a problem with the under-sized belt:
I found that the max pitch of the stock tail was on the low side,
so I mounted a longer tail shaft to reach insane pitches.





But due to this high pitch the belt is slipping when I request simultaneously full pitch and full yaw to the right (worst case)

So I have ordered bigger pulleys and a wider belt (20$)
tail pulley
front pulley
Riemen

I will report how they'll fit...







regards
Marcel
作者: 小拖鞋    时间: 2009-2-18 15:41
沙发
作者: gu318    时间: 2009-2-18 15:57
坐个板凳慢慢看:em15:
作者: aywxslj    时间: 2009-2-18 16:45
。。。板凳都没得分。。。:em17:
作者: yonglaishun88    时间: 2009-2-18 16:46
标题: 看了半天 没看懂 呵呵

作者: 王立刚    时间: 2009-2-19 10:38
口水一地 :em07: :em07:
作者: tzm125    时间: 2009-2-19 11:15
没看明白到底是说好还是不好!




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