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发表于 2009-4-12 11:06 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
很久之前就想搞个水鸡了,但是一直以来都没有合适的,朋友买了好几架卡塔琳娜,总是飞的不好,终于在rcgroup上看到了一个比较有个性的,利用清明节小长假在家里做了一个。经过自己制作并试飞,发现这个水鸡好做,对设备要求不高,但是飞行性能很好,而且从水面起飞也很简单,的确值得推荐,马鞍山两个模友看过后已经在做了,好东西和大浆分享。这是这个飞机的制作图纸和制作过程http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=922465&highlight=polaris
Here's my latest design to share with the forum, a foam parkflyer adaptation of Laddie Mikulasko's beautiful Northstar seaplane. I named this design Polaris to pay homage to the original (for those that don't know, Polaris is the astronomical name of the real North Star). I owned a Balsa USA Northstar kit back in the late 1980s and have loved the design ever since. This design was intended to be as true as possible in outline to the original, but I did make several modifications to adapt it to simple sheet foam construction, electric propulsion, and to better suit the parkflyer role. The most obvious changes are larger empennage, larger control surfaces, and a slightly deeper hull (see the comparison pic below), all of which improve low speed handling for better parkflyerability.

This model handles BEAUTIFULLY both in the air and on the water, and is a real joy to fly. It's well-mannered, smooth and stable at all speeds and aerobatics are a breeze, but to me one of the best things about this model is the amazing speed range—top speed is in excess of 70 mph, yet the model slows down well and can plop down into the water at high alpha under full control at less than 10 mph. This allows the model to be flown in very tight spaces if desired, or if you have a bigger flying site you can open it up and enjoy the speed. It handles wind and waves remarkably well, too. This model also flies very well off of grass—takeoffs require only 10-20 feet and it can even do easy touch and goes off grass.

Here are the technical specs:

Wing area: 343 sq in
Span: 29.0"
Length: 38.4"
Weight RTF: 20 oz
Wing loading: 8.4 oz/sq ft
Motor: Grayson 2212-06
Battery: Thunder Power 2100 mAh 11.1V Prolite
Prop: APC 6x4
Current: 22 amps
Watts: 240 watts
Power loading: 190 watts/lb
Speed control: Grayson 30 amp
Receiver: Berg 7P
Flight controls: Elevator, ailerons, rudder

This model was designed to use a Grayson 2212-06 motor and 3s 2100 mAh lipo. At 20 oz AUW, this motor provides 190 watts per lb, 1.3:1 static thrust-to-weight ratio for unlimited vertical, and 70+ mph top speed—and all at a very light wing loading of 8 oz/sq ft. Plus the small 6" diameter prop minimizes torque effects and allows for a low thrust line to minimize thrust-induced pitch changes. And to top it all off, this motor is very inexpensive ($39.99 for BOTH the motor and ESC!), so any worries about potential water damage are greatly reduced. Other motors that could work well on this model are the Littlescreamers Park Jet (with 6x4 prop) or Super Park Jet (with 7x5 prop). In fact, with the LSPJ motor and 1320 mAh battery, AUW would be only 17 oz—resulting in an extremely low wing loading but still over 1:1 thrust-to-weight ratio for excellent performance. This model was designed to accommodate up to a 7" diameter prop—just mount the motor at the bottom of the firewall if using a 6" prop and at the top of the firewall if using a 7" prop.

Like most seaplanes this model has a high thrust line, however, there is very little pitch trim change with throttle. That's primarily because both the motor and horizontal stabilizer are installed with -2 degrees incidence relative to the wing. The only time I've noticed a pitch trim change with throttle is during VERY slow high alpha flying, where going to full throttle quickly will pitch the nose down. Since the elevator is directly in the prop blast there's plenty of control power to correct, but if you just advance the throttle smoothly you won't even have to worry about it. But most of the time when flying this bird, you don't have to worry about the high thrust line at all.

One of the secrets behind the fantastic slow speed controllability of this model is the location of the prop right in front of the elevator and rudder. That not only gives this model great slow speed control, but also gives it a degree of control similar to my thrust vectoring park jets. At slow speeds, the model will loop and yaw VERY quickly if you give a quick blip of throttle along with the control input!

The finish on my model is just bare foam with some colored packing tape for trim. This keeps the model very light, quick to build, and also makes it easy to repair. Plus the packing tape is strategically placed in areas that need to be strengthened anyway for a seaplane—the bottom of the fuselage and the leading edges of the wings and tail. Hence this paint scheme!

EDIT (4-30-09): For those that want to save time over scratch building this model, a complete laser cut kit is now available at Model Aero. Here's a link:

http://modelaero.com/Merchant5/merch...tegory_Code=AM

And here's a link to a fantastic review by Jon Barnes of the Model Aero Polaris kit. LOTS of great photos and videos in this review!

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=954314

VIDEOS

Here's a YouTube flight video of this model flying off water:

Polaris Seaplane Parkflyer (5 min 1 sec)


And here's a video of flying off snow:

http://www.vimeo.com/2623048

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Here are some photos showing the construction details for this model. If you've built any of my pusher-prop park jet designs before, you won't see anything new here.

This model features all internal servos and linkages to make it as watertight as possible. The only places for water to enter the hull are the 4 pushrod exits, which can all be sealed with grease or Vaseline. The elevator servo is mounted inside the nacelle, and a channel inside the vertical tail allows the motor power wires and elevator servo wires to be run internally.

The #1 glue I recommend for building this bird is epoxy mixed with microballons, since it's lightweight, cures quickly, and perhaps best of all, is pure white to match the color of the Depron perfectly. That makes most of the seams invisible. I also applied beads of epoxy/microballons at all structure intersections to waterproof the model.
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Plans for this model are posted below in the usual tiled and untiled formats. I'd recommend taking the untiled plans to Kinkos, who will print them for only a few dollars.

I hope others enjoy this model as much as I have. But remember, the only rule is—if you build it, you gotta post pictures!

EDIT (9/20/08): An illustrated construction guide has been added to the attachments below.

EDIT (11/7/08): Revised plans and construction photos showing a new nacelle design option are posted in post #392 (link below):

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=392

Steve
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沙发
 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 11:10 | 只看该作者
对了,介绍一下我的配置:xxd2208kv1500+7060+20A电调+老b1000mah11.1v电池+孵化器6通接收+辉盛9g三个,起飞重量(含1000mah电池)385g。

[ 本帖最后由 flowerains 于 2009-4-12 11:12 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-12 12:04 | 只看该作者
加一个轮子=水+陆+空

:em24: :em24:
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发表于 2009-4-12 12:06 | 只看该作者
好机,很喜欢,但自己不会做:em12: ,楼主能帮忙做一架吗所以费用我给:em05:
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发表于 2009-4-12 12:23 | 只看该作者
不错
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 13:45 | 只看该作者

回复 板凳 的帖子

呵呵,我只是爱好,如果你在马鞍山可以教你做,外地的实在没办法了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 13:47 | 只看该作者

回复 藤椅 的帖子

不用加轮子,可以在草地或者平整的地面起飞的
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发表于 2009-4-12 14:16 | 只看该作者
真漂亮啊@@
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发表于 2009-4-12 15:17 | 只看该作者
楼主  麻烦给发份图纸   谢谢fusu11fusu@.qq.com
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 15:46 | 只看该作者

回复 9楼 的帖子

兄弟,看帖太不仔细了,要打pp哦,我在帖子里已经发了图纸和制作网站,仔细看看
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发表于 2009-4-12 20:04 | 只看该作者
:em07: 做的不错哦
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发表于 2009-4-12 20:15 | 只看该作者
确实不错。
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发表于 2009-4-12 20:46 | 只看该作者
:em15: :em15: 好东西 学习下
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发表于 2009-4-12 21:27 | 只看该作者
xion
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发表于 2009-4-12 21:55 | 只看该作者
:em00: :em00: :em00:

楼主,你发的网站我打不开,可以给我发份图纸吗,先谢了...

邮箱:wendy19910906@sina.com
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发表于 2009-4-13 05:46 | 只看该作者
楼主  麻烦给发份图纸   谢谢[fengliucaizi0599@yahoo.cn]
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发表于 2009-4-13 09:40 | 只看该作者
太好了 收下了!!!!!!!!
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发表于 2009-4-13 10:18 | 只看该作者
弱弱的问下
用什么材料做的
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发表于 2009-4-14 12:08 | 只看该作者
回楼上:KT板
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发表于 2009-4-14 15:57 | 只看该作者
请问LZ使用几mm的KT板做的?发动机仓那里使用的什么材料?能否上些详细图片。谢谢。
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